đź§ Beyond the Trip: Dr. Chris Witowski on Non-Hallucinogenic Psychedelics and the Future of Neurodegeneration
🎙️ Guest: Dr. Chris Witowski, CEO & Co-Founder, Psilera
“The first drug on the market is rarely the best one. The next generation removes side effects and reaches more patients.” – Dr. Chris Witowski
đź‘‹ Episode Overview
In this episode, Brandon Li sits down with Dr. Chris Witowski, chemist, entrepreneur, and co-founder of Psilera, a biotech company pioneering neuroplastogens—non-hallucinogenic psychedelic compounds designed to repair the brain without the trip.
Drawing from his background in natural-product chemistry and pharmaceutical cannabinoid research, Dr. Witowski explains how Psilera’s lead molecule, PSIL-006, a psilocybin-derived compound, may deliver rapid mood and cognitive benefits for patients with frontotemporal dementia (FTD) and other neurodegenerative conditions. Together, they explore how psychedelics and neurology are converging, why non-hallucinogenic innovation is the next frontier, and what it will take to make psychedelic science truly scalable.
đź§ Top Takeaways
✅ Psychedelics go beyond mental health. Next-generation compounds hold promise in neurodegeneration—from dementia to Parkinson’s.
âś… Neuroplastogens retain the neuroplasticity benefits of psychedelics while eliminating hallucinogenic and safety concerns.
✅ Rapid-acting, durable treatments could reshape psychiatry and neurology—patients deserve relief in hours, not weeks.
âś… Objective biomarkers in neurodegeneration make translation more measurable than traditional psychiatric endpoints.
âś… The next wave is about accessibility. Drugs that can be taken at home, without intensive monitoring, will expand reach to millions.
🔑 Key Topics Covered
Guest Background
- Ph.D. in Natural Products Chemistry, with research focused on drug discovery from fungi and plants.
- Early career at AltMed, developing novel cannabinoid delivery technologies (transdermal patches, metered inhalers, and pharmaceutical formulations).
- Co-founded Psilera with Dr. Jackie von Salm to apply computational chemistry and preclinical neuroscience to psychedelic drug design.
The Problem He’s Solving
- Hallucinogenic limitations: Traditional psychedelics are poorly suited for vulnerable populations like dementia patients.
- The evidence gap: Public enthusiasm and decriminalization efforts outpaced scientific rigor.
- Access barriers: Psychedelic-assisted therapy models require hours of in-clinic supervision, limiting scalability.
Innovation & Contributions
- Developed PSIL-006, a modified psilocybin analog that preserves mood and cognitive benefits without hallucinatory effects.
- Demonstrated reversal of cognitive decline and improved sleep quality in preclinical models of tau-related dementia.
- Created a computational drug-design platform to accelerate discovery of safe, receptor-selective psychedelic analogs.
- Advocates for a model of psychedelic medicine that is clinically validated, digitally monitored, and broadly accessible.
Challenges & Barriers
- Proving that psychedelic experience is not required for therapeutic benefit remains the biggest scientific hurdle.
- Long timelines and variability in neurodegenerative trials demand efficient, biomarker-based endpoints.
- Overcoming skepticism from investors and Big Pharma requires clear translational data and reproducibility.
Vision for the Future
- Second-generation psychedelics (like PSIL-006) will define the next era of neuroscience innovation.
- At-home neuroplastogens will make psychedelic medicine scalable, safe, and routine.
- Pharma partnerships will bridge early-stage discovery with late-stage commercialization once efficacy is proven.
- Neuroscience will unify. Psychiatry, neurology, and immunology will merge under a systems-level understanding of brain health.
đź’¬ Speaker Spotlights
On founding Psilera:
“When Spravato was approved, it opened the playbook. It proved the FDA was willing to approve untraditional molecules that work.”
On psychedelics in neurodegeneration:
“Ninety percent of dementia patients have mood disorders. If we can remove hallucinogenic effects and keep the benefits, we unlock a huge population of patients.”
On the importance of evidence:
“Development is about science, not hype. Public opinion should follow the data — not lead it.”
On neuroplasticity:
“Neuroplasticity is the common thread. If we can keep neurons connected longer, we can change the course of disease.”
On patient experience:
“Our goal is simple: take a medicine that works like psilocybin, but without the trip. Relief that fits into everyday life.”
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